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		<title>By: Stefan Weil</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weeeeellll, honestly, not entirely. I think the observation perfectly applies for a certain kind of people, which are basically the ones which were the reason for me to flee Holmes&#039; and now even not getting close to it... it was very interesting in the very beginning, i have to admit. but after a while you actually got so bored in there always watching the same kind of people trying to look like Angelina Jolie or Brat Pitt respectively. A female friend there with insider information from the womens changing room once told me that at least fifty per cent of the ladies there were either carrying some artificial things, artificially not carrying certain other things, or both. So that really was scary as you described, as it was potentially possible to see one or the other perfect body in there. what was totally impossible, though, was to see a single smile on any face except on the ones of the always happy personal trainers. So a good summary of that was a bit like the anwer of a friend of mine on my remark that there are really some guys with perfectly worked out bodies, and that i was a bit jealous -&gt; well yes. they might have a perfectly worked out body, but in exchange we have a decent job, and friends...

So luckily, my initial comment was of course very generalising and also not entirely unironic. what honestly does a guy with a bit of brain left want to do in some longer term with a lady dedicating her existence to trying to look like angelina jolie, not enjoying life, and not focusing on anything else than the external appearance. or, to put it in different words, trying to look like somebody, or even worse, be somebody, who is not herself at all in the first place, but rather has gained all her fame from an image not coming from personality, but rather from professional work out, stylists, image designers, and what have you. Clearly that would be frustrating if you had it as some goal, as it would be frustrating for a guy with the age of thirty to dedicate all his ambitions to becoming a professional football player. So if, as a guy, you were reeeally going after that ideal of a woman, it would then be far easier to put up a real life replica of the same in your appartment, as then you could even get rid of any unnecessary conversation, or certain annoying rests of own personality, to make the lady even more &quot;perfect&quot;, in this twisted view. Or breed a clone of the same while supressing any trace of own personality, which you can then take out with you to show off in front of your friends even... that would be really scary, but luckily that would be a totally wrong perception of the male brain. and luckily also i have not heard any guy expressing the wish to find a woman like that (at least not since the age of maybe,,, twelve,,, from some guys on the football ground who are now brooming yards or helping in a industry kitchen to make their living).

So considering that, and also your comment, its of course a very good development, if its actually one, away from situations where you have some fat bellied machistas in undershits clapping asses of some always smiling vacuum bunnies jumping around at a pool. But lets leave some space for some male phantasies as well ;-) At least to have some counter weight to the coca cola light guy ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeeeellll, honestly, not entirely. I think the observation perfectly applies for a certain kind of people, which are basically the ones which were the reason for me to flee Holmes&#8217; and now even not getting close to it&#8230; it was very interesting in the very beginning, i have to admit. but after a while you actually got so bored in there always watching the same kind of people trying to look like Angelina Jolie or Brat Pitt respectively. A female friend there with insider information from the womens changing room once told me that at least fifty per cent of the ladies there were either carrying some artificial things, artificially not carrying certain other things, or both. So that really was scary as you described, as it was potentially possible to see one or the other perfect body in there. what was totally impossible, though, was to see a single smile on any face except on the ones of the always happy personal trainers. So a good summary of that was a bit like the anwer of a friend of mine on my remark that there are really some guys with perfectly worked out bodies, and that i was a bit jealous -&gt; well yes. they might have a perfectly worked out body, but in exchange we have a decent job, and friends&#8230;</p>
<p>So luckily, my initial comment was of course very generalising and also not entirely unironic. what honestly does a guy with a bit of brain left want to do in some longer term with a lady dedicating her existence to trying to look like angelina jolie, not enjoying life, and not focusing on anything else than the external appearance. or, to put it in different words, trying to look like somebody, or even worse, be somebody, who is not herself at all in the first place, but rather has gained all her fame from an image not coming from personality, but rather from professional work out, stylists, image designers, and what have you. Clearly that would be frustrating if you had it as some goal, as it would be frustrating for a guy with the age of thirty to dedicate all his ambitions to becoming a professional football player. So if, as a guy, you were reeeally going after that ideal of a woman, it would then be far easier to put up a real life replica of the same in your appartment, as then you could even get rid of any unnecessary conversation, or certain annoying rests of own personality, to make the lady even more &#8220;perfect&#8221;, in this twisted view. Or breed a clone of the same while supressing any trace of own personality, which you can then take out with you to show off in front of your friends even&#8230; that would be really scary, but luckily that would be a totally wrong perception of the male brain. and luckily also i have not heard any guy expressing the wish to find a woman like that (at least not since the age of maybe,,, twelve,,, from some guys on the football ground who are now brooming yards or helping in a industry kitchen to make their living).</p>
<p>So considering that, and also your comment, its of course a very good development, if its actually one, away from situations where you have some fat bellied machistas in undershits clapping asses of some always smiling vacuum bunnies jumping around at a pool. But lets leave some space for some male phantasies as well <img src='http://www.tajder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  At least to have some counter weight to the coca cola light guy <img src='http://www.tajder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ana_tajder</title>
		<link>http://www.tajder.com/archives/106/comment-page-1#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>ana_tajder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan, thank you for your long observation. Are we facing times when women will look like shit while being furstrated because they think they should look like Angelina Jolie and men will look like Brad Pitt furstrated because women don&#039;t look like Angelina but think they should? And because they would rather drink beer than go to the gym? The conclusio - everyone thinks everyone &quot;should&quot; something else and everyone furstrated to the bones. Ugh scarry :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan, thank you for your long observation. Are we facing times when women will look like shit while being furstrated because they think they should look like Angelina Jolie and men will look like Brad Pitt furstrated because women don&#8217;t look like Angelina but think they should? And because they would rather drink beer than go to the gym? The conclusio &#8211; everyone thinks everyone &#8220;should&#8221; something else and everyone furstrated to the bones. Ugh scarry <img src='http://www.tajder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Weil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Weil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey ana... so again in writing via the blog here. great stuff you are doing.

So yeeees. tend to agree to this observation, which of course is a very bad one... ;-) Who does not look back with tears in the eyes to the time when the greatest among us guys were the ones who were able to swallow the hugest amount of beers in a given time, and not the ones who now had their actificially solid male breasts from lifting weights in some obscure and sterile gym, were veggies, only drinking water, and probably still have their hair washed by their mothers.... We were spending our times creatively figuring out new nick names for any female class mates who maybe had one or two pounds too much, rather than wasting also the last bit of our spare time somewhere in some cellar with artificial neon lights, beeing brain killed by some shows on plasma screens, where one female hair dresser trainee is watching a bunch of male dullards trying to cook, only in order to pick the most stumpy one in order to head off with him for a week to fuerte to have bad sex. Its a bt like some self imposed &quot;big brother is watching you&quot;.

Hence i keep on complaining about the fact that now, at least in germany, guys are more and more viewed as kind of sex objects, keeping the weight constant by subsituting brain substance with muscles, whereas women more or less even proudly assume the right to be not only offensively fat assed and worn out, but even see that as kind of finding their own center by just giving a toss about what the formerly male dominated world would like to tell them in terms of physical appearance, not taking into consideration that alice schwarzer actually was a lesbian, whose sense of female beauty maybe might be a bit biased. Furthermore, of course you have those new tv shows like sex and the city, or similar (i have listen in some conversations about it....), who now complement this lesbian movement somewhere from the other side, so that poor men are now totally squeezed in the middle, kind of &quot;victimized&quot; by society.... I think we are facing dark dark dark dark times.... lucky you can also enjoy dark times ;-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey ana&#8230; so again in writing via the blog here. great stuff you are doing.</p>
<p>So yeeees. tend to agree to this observation, which of course is a very bad one&#8230; <img src='http://www.tajder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Who does not look back with tears in the eyes to the time when the greatest among us guys were the ones who were able to swallow the hugest amount of beers in a given time, and not the ones who now had their actificially solid male breasts from lifting weights in some obscure and sterile gym, were veggies, only drinking water, and probably still have their hair washed by their mothers&#8230;. We were spending our times creatively figuring out new nick names for any female class mates who maybe had one or two pounds too much, rather than wasting also the last bit of our spare time somewhere in some cellar with artificial neon lights, beeing brain killed by some shows on plasma screens, where one female hair dresser trainee is watching a bunch of male dullards trying to cook, only in order to pick the most stumpy one in order to head off with him for a week to fuerte to have bad sex. Its a bt like some self imposed &#8220;big brother is watching you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hence i keep on complaining about the fact that now, at least in germany, guys are more and more viewed as kind of sex objects, keeping the weight constant by subsituting brain substance with muscles, whereas women more or less even proudly assume the right to be not only offensively fat assed and worn out, but even see that as kind of finding their own center by just giving a toss about what the formerly male dominated world would like to tell them in terms of physical appearance, not taking into consideration that alice schwarzer actually was a lesbian, whose sense of female beauty maybe might be a bit biased. Furthermore, of course you have those new tv shows like sex and the city, or similar (i have listen in some conversations about it&#8230;.), who now complement this lesbian movement somewhere from the other side, so that poor men are now totally squeezed in the middle, kind of &#8220;victimized&#8221; by society&#8230;. I think we are facing dark dark dark dark times&#8230;. lucky you can also enjoy dark times <img src='http://www.tajder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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